If we play UM does it mean system is broke?

[Zigbee]

There is a high percentage of you lucid posters that have stated that a NC game against Michigan would be just wrong. The more I think about it the more I agree. But, if the playoff system were instituted wouldn't Michigan get another crack as well provided the playoffs included non conference winners? If it only included conference champions then maybe that would work, but is the system the BCS currently using the best considering the posturing of who wins by how much and so on in this the last week of the season?

[DaytonBuck]

In a playoff format..no doubt rematches would occur. They do in every other sport.

My only question about playing Michigan again..are they clearly the #2 team? I guess they might be..but who knows?

[TabeyTabe]

I don't like it, but I don't think it says the system is broke...

Most already feel the system is broke in the first place though...

[coop]

The system is pathetic. When the only reason you are playing for the MNC is timing something is wrong. All of these talking heads go on and on about should it be USC or meatchicken but think about this. If meatchicken had played us in October and lost the same way and USC loses to an 8-4 OrgSU in November NOBODY would be saying that USC should be in the MNC game.

[Jake]

Most already feel the system is broke in the first place though...

Exactly.
Sometimes it falls backasswards into the "right" match-up and sometimes it is controversial. A system that relies on dumb luck to produce a clear result is not a good system.

All you can do is win your games, and so far no one has done that better than our Buckeyes.

scUM had their shot. I want to beat Petey.

[ThadsNose]

I think it's pretty obvious through all the close games they had that USC is not the true #2. I mean if people think talent wise they are 2 then I can accept that but dont BS me with their schedule being good (come on, Arkansas is not even a bowl team without McFadden), and they havnt played a top 50 defense all season per espn last night.

[pittman25]

It really depends, if both USC and Flordia lose then no the BCS isn't broke. That case it's just a fluke that we would have to play them.

[longtoothbuck]

Here's the way I see it. Michigan has one loss. So IF Michigan, Fla and USC all end up with one loss, then EITHER Fla or USC DESERVE to play us and which one is pretty subjective.

Why shouldn't Michigan be included in the discussion. THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE IN COLUMBUS. I know, their argument is they BARELY lost to us on our home field. So what? THEY barely beat Ball State on THEIR home field. So does that mean Ball State should get a second chance against them? Does that mean Ball State is ALMOST as good as them? How much Michigan lost against us is of ZERO consequence. They LOST and someone else deserves a chance.

Now, should Florida AND USC both lose, you could argue some other one loss or even no loss team (Rutgers, Boise State, etc) deserve a chance, but reality is I think EVERYONE would agree, Michigan is without a doubt better than those PRETENDERS and deserves a shot at a National Championship.
And it's not that they deserve another shot at Ohio State, it's just that I think you could safely say given that USC and Florida get second losses, then for sure Michigan really is #2.

[gleszekod]

I don't believe the system would be broke if UM went to the title game. A very strong case can be made on their behalf that they are the second best team in the country. I believe the system was more broke in 03 when the number one team in the country didn't play in the title game. The system would only be broke in this instance if OSU was left out.

As far as this being a viable system to begin with, I have my reservations. I believe the goal of the system is too narrow minded and hinges upon several factors working out for there to be minimal controversy. Those factors don't always work themselves out every year. I also believe the comp. rankings ruined the 03 season, and I believe it's the common denominator for problems. Does anyone here believe OSU was the third best team in the country heading into the UM-OSU game this year? That's what the comp composite told us though. They do very similar things every year.

[JustPlainNasty95]

I wonder what the people would be saying if OSU played and beaten Michigan earlier in the season by 3 points. I don't believe they deserve a rematch right now, but I think an early loss really changes things if they had run the table the rest of the way.

[BuckeyeMark]

Some years it all comes together. 1999 FSU v. Va Tech, 2002 OSU v. Miami, 2004 USC v. Oklahoma, 2005 Texas v. USC, others not so much...

IMO if USC loses to UCLA, and Florida loses to Arkansas Michigan would be without a doubt the clear cut #2 team. Would the system not have worked in producing #1 v. #2?

[BuckeyeFan1253]

Most already feel the system is broke in the first place though...

The system was never broke when the Big Ten champ went to the Rose Bowl regardless of MNC implications. I miss that. In all likelihood this will be the 5th time in six years the Rose Bowl has NOT had the traditional matchup

The BCS is a joke. Wisconsin can't get a bid but they have to grant one to Boise State because the small schools threw a hissyfit? Bottom line, the BCS is tailor made towards two groups: the university presidents and Notre Dame